Icecat vs pale moon vs seamonkey update#
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Someone posted a snippet of their IRC channel conversation in the comments section (I removed that IRC conversation from the comment because it was pretty inflammatory) but got interested in what else they had to say in that channel so I consulted. I found the forum post where Moonchild ridiculed Slackware then I decided that this was the final push to get me to remove the package from my repository and wrote the above blog post. I roamed the Pale Moon forum to see what the extent was of Slackware related issues that I might have to address in a new package, considering their fast release of a bugfix version.

Icecat vs pale moon vs seamonkey update#

I was deliberating whether to update the palemoon.SlackBuild to support the new major release, because I stopped using Pale Moon myself a long time ago and don’t really want stuff in my repository that I do not use. And the end bit of is just as ridiculous, where they state that my action was premeditated because of some perceived timing issue? Let me repeat my rationale: My conclusion is that these people are not worth supporting in any way. NewTobinParadigm: reading here /palemoon/20180903 I would like you to explain your reasons to me Then I can explain why I did what I did, so that you can improve your attitude towards distros and people

NewTobinParadigm: do you want to repeat to my facec what you have been telling here in the channel about me? Same for my distro? (FYI this is what he talks about I typed these lines into their IRC channel right before I got banned… people that get woken up by updates in an IRC channel have some serious life issues): He fuckin woke me up at 7am screaming at me I’d say slackware and its user base can rot in hell. Well if khronosschoty wasn’t doing a top notch job being awesome and producing a package and contributing.

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I use Windows 7 like a normal person who isn’t brain dead or a communist It’s clear that they care for nothing but Windows OS: Let me quote a bit from (this is today’s log – the last few days saw a lot more ‘interesting’ comments about me, Slackware and its userbase). Well, Pale Moon devs and their products are best ignored completely from now on. Pale Moon browser is still within reach of every Slackware user who wants it. That is where they failed, and that is why I stopped spending time on packaging the Pale Moon code.Īs was said above, Linux, and Slackware in particular, is all about freedom of choice.

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However for a product to be embraced, the developer should not alienate his users and carelessly dismiss the distro packagers who should be their vehicle to get the software adopted into the distro ecosystem. There are many people who are looking for alternatives to Firefox, and do not want to use the Google browsers. That makes their job a lot harder, and I think they mostly succeed in creating a good alternative browser for people who think that Mozilla chose the wrong path with their Firefox browser development. The Pale Moon developer team is small, they have to work with a big codebase, and they need to support Windows, Linux and all the other OS-es out there. That was not my reason for removing it from the repository. To all of you calling it a crappy browser – I don’t think it is a crappy browser. If you want to keep running Pale Moon, you can use the SlackBuild script maintained by Khronosschoty and one of the binary packages he provides here:

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That just falls short of confessing that their code is not mature yet. Also, Moonchild refuses to mention me as a “contributed build” on the “ contributed builds” page.Īnd frankly, I have enough of the arrogant attitude that all issues with their browser (which is a derivative of Mozilla Firefox code, forked before the moment certain big changes were being made to Firefox) are caused by packagers who compile and distribute their own binaries and never caused by the developers.

However, the above is not how a respectful relationship between developer and distributor works. That set me off on the wrong foot from the beginning, but I thought an alternative to Firefox would be beneficial to Slackware users, so I added the package and build script despite my misgivings. When working on my initial SlackBuild script and trying to obtain approval to use their ‘official branding’ I had a seriously grim argument with the lead minion of the developer group and the lead maintainer had to step in to appease. The main developer is ridiculing Slackware. The reason? Primarily the attitude of its developers. I have removed my contributed build of the Pale Moon browser from my package repository.